“…it wasn’t the aviation lessons that were forefront in any of our minds. It was the human element. And I remember that very day kind of boiling them down to three things: habits, hope, and heroes.”

In today’s conversation, Steve and Captain Shults discuss leadership during a time of crisis, the importance of building trust with your team, how her parents’ example led her as navigated becoming one of the first female F/A-18 Hornet pilots in the United States Navy, and more.

Tammie Jo Shults

Tammie Jo Shults, retired Southwest Airlines captain and former naval aviator. Captain Shults received wide acclaim when, on April 17, 2018, she and her crew successfully landed a Boeing 737 after catastrophic engine failure and rapid decompression, saving the lives of 148 people.

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