Podcast

Beyond Infrastructure: The Case for Putting People First

Emily Holyoake
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In this episode, Steve Durbin, Chief Executive of the Information Security Forum, joins Emily Holyoake, Co-founder of Not A Standard and architect of the SAFE framework, to explore how tech-facilitated abuse and gender-based violence are challenging the industry to protect people, not just infrastructure. They examine the human cost of cyberattacks, the perpetrator-focused lens that reframes threat modelling, and why building a safer society is both a moral imperative and a sound business case.

It’s never actually about the victim, it’s always about the actor trying to fulfil a need for themselves.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Every attack begins and ends with a human and a breach can have an existential impact on people’s lives.
  2. Attribution too often is aimed at individual humans, when we should look at the systems that enabled the person to cause the harm.
  3. Diversity within your teams enables a richer environment for problem-solving.