Steve Wozniak in conversation with Steve Durbin

Steve Wozniak
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ISF Chief Executive, Steve Durbin, speaks with computer programmer, philanthropist, and co-founder of Apple, Steve Wozniak. Woz reminisces about the past and looks into the future of Big Tech, and considers what both could mean for the future of security.

Security by design was never ever once thought of. Steve Jobs and I had actually had some fun exploring the world of the telephone networks…Well, security thinking comes after you create the ability to do things. It always comes secondarily. And we found out why.